<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/"
	>

<channel>
	<title>Virtuous cycle &#187; goldenline</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.owczarek.com.pl/blog/tag/goldenline/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.owczarek.com.pl/blog</link>
	<description>Bartlomiej Owczarek weblog</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:52:00 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<language>en</language>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3</generator>
		<item>
		<title>Monetto partners with Nasza Klasa, should they go with Goldenline instead?</title>
		<link>http://www.owczarek.com.pl/blog/2008/03/05/monetto-partners-with-nasza-klasa-should-they-go-with-goldenline-instead/</link>
		<comments>http://www.owczarek.com.pl/blog/2008/03/05/monetto-partners-with-nasza-klasa-should-they-go-with-goldenline-instead/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>BOwczarek</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Financial services]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Social web]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Strategy]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[goldenline]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[monetto]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[nasza klasa]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[poland]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[social lending]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.owczarek.com.pl/blog/2008/03/05/monetto-partners-with-nasza-klasa-should-they-go-with-goldenline-instead/</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[More recent post: Nasza klasa and facebook Monetto was kind enough to send me their press release, announcing partnership that they concluded with Nasza Klasa (Polish equivalent of classmates, but more of a Facebook phenomenon in terms of popularity). Not that I could do anything with the material while in the Ukraine, but still a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[</p>
<p><strong>More recent post: <a href="http://www.owczarek.com.pl/blog/2010/03/14/nasza-klasa-vs-facebook/">Nasza klasa and facebook</a></strong></p>
<p>Monetto was kind enough to send me their press release, announcing partnership that they concluded with Nasza Klasa (Polish equivalent of <a href="http://classmates.com/">classmates</a>, but more of a Facebook phenomenon in terms of popularity).</p>
<p>Not that I could do anything with the material while in the Ukraine, but still a point for their PR.</p>
<p>One curious thing is the homepage screen shot they attached to the press release.</p>
<p style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"><a href="http://www.owczarek.com.pl/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/20082008-monetto-homepage.jpg" rel="lightbox" title="20082008 Monetto homepage.jpg"><img src="http://www.owczarek.com.pl/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/20082008-monetto-homepage-tn.jpg" title="20082008 Monetto homepage.jpg" height="200" width="162" alt="20082008 Monetto homepage.jpg" border="0" id="urn:zoundry:jid:20082008_Monetto_homepage.jpg"/></a></p>
<p>Some static elements are evidently in a &#8220;draft&#8221; state at the moment, and it&#8217;s not clear if the core functionality (transactions) has the same status. Placeholder for press snippets shows that Monetto has really high hopes. Folks at bankier should take note.</p>
<p style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"><a href="http://www.owczarek.com.pl/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/20080205-monetto-napisaonas.gif" rel="lightbox" title="20080205 Monetto napisaonas.gif"><img src="http://www.owczarek.com.pl/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/20080205-monetto-napisaonas-tn.jpg" title="20080205 Monetto napisaonas.gif" height="118" width="200" alt="20080205 Monetto napisaonas.gif" border="0" id="urn:zoundry:jid:20080205_Monetto_napisaonas.gif"/></a></p>
<p>Back to the main point. From the press I understood that:</p>
<ul>
<li>Monetto signed letter of intention with Nasza Klasa regarding the partnership, which will work as the following (in my understanding) -</li>
<li>Users of Nasza Klasa will be able to &#8220;confirm&#8221; their profile using Monetto capabilities (more info on <a href="http://monetto.pl/blog/?p=35">blog entry</a>: &#8220;test&#8221; money transfer and sending ID scans by email)</li>
<li>Additionally, NK user will be able to indicate on his profile that he wants lend/borrow money</li>
<li>Nasza Klasa hopes that it will improve credibility of the service (validation of profiles) and reduce problem of fake profiles</li>
<li>Monetto hopes that users redirected from Nasza Klasa will in part get interested in P2P lending and use its intermediation</li>
<li>The actual contract between two sites has not been signed yet</li>
</ul>
<p>Meanwhile the release was picked by <a href="http://gospodarka.gazeta.pl/gospodarka/1,33407,4992133.html">Gazeta Wyborcza</a>, which reprinted it, without hesitating to spin the point about raising Nasza Klasa credibility to describe it as a site which &#8220;more and more often raises mixed feelings&#8221;. Get over it, Gazeta.</p>
<p>But in the end they comment that the deal has a high potential for both sites and can harm competitors a lot and especially <a href="https://kokos.pl/">kokos.pl</a>.</p>
<p>My first thoughts on the deal below.</p>
<p><span id="more-307"></span></p>
<ul>
<li>Clearly having a user flow from a popular social site would be of tremendous advantage to Monetto</li>
<li>But is profile verification really an attractive driver for users of Nasza Klasa? Why would anyone want to verify a profile on NK? It is used to post vacation photos and comments on forums, hardly a credibility-driven activity</li>
<li>Moreover, if someone joins my class with a proper name of a classmate and his photo, then I&#8217;m pretty satisfied with the chances that this is the actual guy, and even if not, who cares</li>
<li>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, fake profiles might be a problem for NK itself, but is it really for its individual users?</li>
<li>Are &#8220;friends&#8221; on Nasza Klasa a good group of potential lenders/borrowers? In my case for sure not (lending to people I haven&#8217;t seen for 10 years?). Are younger people using NK? I don&#8217;t know</li>
<li><a href="http://antyweb.pl/nasza-klasapl-partnerem-strategicznym-monettopl/">Antyweb</a> adds that NK users will not appreciate being marked as &#8220;in need of money&#8221;</li>
<li>On the other hand, portals like Goldenline have more &#8220;serious&#8221; profile, and users might it attractive to &#8220;add value&#8221; to their profile by validation (for example in hope to increase chance of being picked up by headhunter)</li>
<li>Surely Goldenline has less users, but they are more &#8220;business&#8221; oriented &#8211; but still with plenty of students &#8211; and Monetto wants to target more serious loan tickets (at PLN 3,000)</li>
</ul>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Monetto will benefit from marketing point of view, not so sure about target group. As for Nasza Klasa, I cannot see practical advantage, on a first glance (money from referrals to Monetto probably neglectable).</p>
<p>Interesting comment on <a href="http://netto.blox.pl/2008/03/druga-strona-monetto.html">netto post</a> &#8211; <a href="http://ols.blox.pl/html">Ols</a> suggests Allegro as a better partner, because additional verification makes sense for an auction site. My first thought was GL because it&#8217;s social network, but allegro also makes quite a lot of sense.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.owczarek.com.pl/blog/2008/03/05/monetto-partners-with-nasza-klasa-should-they-go-with-goldenline-instead/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Goldenline</title>
		<link>http://www.owczarek.com.pl/blog/2006/11/30/goldenline/</link>
		<comments>http://www.owczarek.com.pl/blog/2006/11/30/goldenline/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>BOwczarek</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Review]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Social web]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[goldenline]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[poland]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.owczarek.com.pl/blog/2006/11/30/goldenline/</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Another Polish network site, and Linkedin clone, I guess. But quite cute. Recently I&#8217;m having special feelings for names with &#8220;golden&#8221; in it. Anyway, I found it while looking up some unexpected contact of today. They had a salsa group so I registered out of curiosity (haven&#8217;t been to salsa for ages, I prefer horse [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another Polish network <a href="http://www.goldenline.pl/index.php">site</a>, and Linkedin clone, I guess. But quite cute. Recently I&#8217;m having special feelings for names with &#8220;golden&#8221; in it.</p>
<p>Anyway, I found it while looking up some unexpected contact of today. They had a salsa group so I registered out of curiosity (haven&#8217;t been to salsa for ages, I prefer horse riding lately because it&#8217;s in the open air, even if there are hardly any girls to be met).</p>
<p>Ok small update: after 5 minutes, while breaking from writing this to read some <a href="http://www.patrycja.mentis.pl/shrew-log/2006/07/19/goldenlinepl-i-zapraszanie-do-kontaktow/">blog entry</a> about unsolicited invitations in goldenline, I got unsolicited invitation from a headhunter. Heh.</p>
<p>Anyway check my <a href="http://www.goldenline.pl/bartlomiej_owczarek">profile</a>, with the most dressed-up picture I got (scanned it today for a proposal).</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.owczarek.com.pl/blog/2006/11/30/goldenline/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
		</item>
	</channel>
</rss>

