All the women of Simon Mol
Simon Mol (Simon Moleke Njie), an exile from Cameroon, was accused of knowingly infecting his sexual partners with HIV and arrested. He is a writer, poet, and creator of an Migrator Theater. He lives in Poland since 1999.
His relations included young women fascinated by his poetry and human rights campaigns. Some of them allegedly informed him about the disease after learning that they were infected: African kind of a virus, with a very aggressive profile. Pharmaceuticals had to be used months after the infection, while normally it takes couple of years before it is necessary.
Gazeta Wyborcza:
Monika O., literature student who met with Simon Mol 11 months earlier, contacted the police in November this year.
- I was attracted by journalism, I wanted to write about Migrator Theater - she describes. - I was fascinated by human rights activist fighting with racial stereotypes. Soon we started to meet, went to bed. I didn’t suspect that he could infect me with HIV virus and even less, hide from me that he is infected. I also thought that suspecting him of being infected would equal giving way to stereotypes. Thus we made love unprotected.
Simon Mol on his web page:
Of Life & Death
Life, Death, Life.
Light, Darkness, Light, Darkness;
Light, Life?
Nothing Can Stop Nature.
Not even Nature Itself.
Maybe it’s immoral to feel for those affected (exact number unknown) more than for anonymous millions who die in Africa, but I do. They seem young and idealistic types who fell pray to a ruthless abuser. We emphasize empathize (thx Michal:) with ones that we identify ourselves with, I know.
Added 9th Jan: seems Rzeczpospolita picked the same title as me (but in Polish). New details, more women. Like a sad Almodovar movie. Hypothesis: Mol was infecting women as a way of racial revenge, or a weird african magic ritual: getting healed by passing disease to others.
I read some forums related to the case on the weekend, but not so many blogs. One of the forums was e-teatr (update: removed by administrator), where one of the victims started the thread by posting a warning against Mol in December. Soon the thread became dominated by the aggressive vulgar comments against the victims. I believe everyone can judge their behaviour on his own (even though without knowing the real personal context I would consider such judgement premature), but I can’t understand how you can post such things in the face of a person who is already sentenced to death for what she did.
While the comments mentioned above seem to be driven by hostility due to the fact that Mol is a black, the beatroot blog goes to the other extreme and tries to defend Mol (maybe not defend, but abstract the case into political sphere away from the actual human suffering) regardless of all. Even if I can appreciate taking a stand of a devil’s advocate, again, the message focuses on the culrpit and disregard the victims. In the comments someone notices that the author seems to find Mol suspected of a deed equal to spreading flu, which for me, if proven, would rather amount to a mass murder.
Gniewomir Świechowski notices the comments too and sides with the victims. Mentions the painful question - why it took so long? It was likely known for years that Mol is infected (also to him), yet he was stopped only now.
Added Jan 12th: article about Simon Mol by Rebecca. I link to it because it?s written by someone who knew Simon personally and because it considers an issue of unfortunate impact of this case on attitude towards refugees, which I didn?t mention. As an additional bonus it?s in English.
Speaking of political playing of the issue, a site called The Brussels Journal quoted this article in one of their own titled Leftist Activism.
Added Jan 16th: New report in Gazeta Wyborcza by Jakub Janiszewski from TOK FM. Report mostly through the words of the victims: Beata (22), Sylwia (25), Marta (23), Monika (24).
They make no secret of how their relation started. Article is titled I was attracted by this force within him (my translation sucks for the lack of time). I remain with the feeling that they are guilty of stupidity and being naive, but of nothing else. Throw a stone. I translated the introductions below.
Beata (22): ?He was my first partner. I think I was somehow addicted to him. Why? I don?t know. Maybe I was fascinated by him. Maybe because he knew so much about Africa, and I was interested in this continent? Especially the religion. These beliefs they have, cult. He was to tell me about this and that?s how we met. Through acquintances.?
Sylwia (25): ?I was finishing my studies, didn?t have any job and the voluntary work by Migrator Theater seemed if not great, then at least some kind of option. Thus I came forward and prepared translations. To gain any kind of experience. I remember that initially Simon seemed a guy that no girl would fall for. Neither handsome, nor seducer, just plain. (?) I saw in him some kind of hero, I don?t know..? A fighter? He seemed stronger, better than me. (?) How did it come to this that I, who since being 8 years old knew that one has to protect himself, could go to bed with him and not think about a condom? I can?t come to terms with that to this very day. I was stupid, we were all very stupid.?
Marta (23) describes how she was accidentally approached by Mol while sitting with friends in the street of Warsaw?s old town. ?I saw him walk by. There was some magic to it. Our eyes met and I felt something between us. There was a spark. (?) I am deeply religious person, some say I have no link with reality. At that time maybe I really didn?t have it. I saw everything idealistic way, with no distance. Before Simon I had no other man.?
Monika (24): ?I was interested in Migrator Theater, and consequently, personality of Simon. We met. Went for a beer. Couple of days later he called me and we met at his place. I was undergoing a deep crisis then. My relation with a boyfriend, whom I was dating for a year, had fallen apart. Simon hit at that moment.?
Neither of the interviewees mentions any further chains of infection.
Subtitle: ?The only thing I can do now, is to save the next ones. Report about victims of Simon Mol?.
Added Jan 17th: beatroot finds my comment of his article nasty:
I don?t think that is fair comment at all.
The point of the second Mol post was about how some are trying to turn what are basic human tragedies, lives completely changed, suffering, into a political crusade. It is not me that is doing the abstracting, or the crusading.
What I meant is that neither beatroot?s first post, written to express skepticism towards the whole case in general and girls? accusations in particular, nor the second one, in which he moves on to worry about racists? use of the case, makes any effort to display sympathy for the victims. Beatroot writes ?Mol?s behaviour has taken on a much wider significance than to the lives that he has affected? and I agree, but since signs of the sympathy for these girls were something I was looking for at the time, I wrote the post to make for the apparent lack of them all around the internet.
Having said this, the comments referred to the particular message, rather than the person. And in fact, as he wrote, his life experience with victims of AIDS far exceeds mine.
Added Jan 19th: I already linked to Rebecca’s article for its unique perspective of someone who new Simon Mol personally, but now another reason to check it is a comment left by Mary, Simon’s former long time partner, the first comment to cast some doubt on part of the accussations. Mary claims to be Mol’s partner at a time when he supposedly had some of the relations described in the press, says she is healthy, and the woman he had had previously is healthy too (and her child as well).
In the same time, basing on her intimacy with Simon Mol, she expresses doubts whether the women quoted in the press really knew him. Ironically, earlier it was the press that accused Simon Mol’s friend of not knowing him at all. It gets interesting, the question - who Simon Mol really is?
Added Feb 1st: I would say I was again pretty much aligned with Rzeczpospolita, because they have done some work to shed some light on who Simon Mol really is. In the latest article by Bertold Kittel, Maja Narbutt, and Agata Byrska ask some questions about Mol?s financial activity: he was managing a one-person fundation and got granted an appartment by the committee he was a member of. They also mention some rather shadowy figures close to Mol, who are suspected of trying to threaten the witnesses. Rzeczpospolita also makes some nasty remarks about how easy it was for Mol to manipulate Gazeta Wyborcza?s journalists.
Added Feb 8th: Onet reports that even though infected women inform the police, they refuse to testify against Mol. Out of several women only four testify. On the other hand, police secured documents proving that Mol was diagnozed with HIV while in exile camp and he was informed that he is infected, therefore even without testimonies he will not avoid responsibility.
Added Mar 9th: Away in Moscow, I neglected to report the latest from Rzeczpospolita and TVN. We could see it coming. According to reporters’ investigation, Mol made up all the story about being politically repressed in his home country. I mention it just for the record. As the original title of this post suggests, Mol himself is of little personal interest of mine.
The article mentioned a specific fashion in Africa, related to guys cheating their way to the welfare countries with the approach similar to Mol’s. African prisons are supposedly filled with them, or at least the ones caught red-handed.
Earlier I read that the worst that could happen to Mol is to be extradicted to homeland, where he would surely be abused and tortured for his earlier activity. Now it seems he would rather have opportunity to share experiences with his fellows of the same trade.
So now the story lost some of its exotic allure and reached areas neighboring nigerian email scams and the like, African specific “entrepreneurship”. Which makes it even more sad somehow.
Added Dec 14th: According to GW, prosecution presented Mol with 13 formal charges - 12 are related to infecting women with dangerous virus, and 13th is related to illegal possession of a hand weapon (nunchaku). Two more cases of women are set aside, because they are currently abroad.
Added Oct 11th 2008: Wprost reported that Simon Mol died yesterday in a hospital. Onet wrote that he infected at least 40 women according to the prosecutor (much higher number than previously published). In September court decided to release him from prison due to his deteriorating health.
Hi,
I browsed Simon Mol’s website and came across an article in which he refutes the claims of AIDS:
“With all what I have been through; sleeping in a conference hall for 18-months in Ghana, fighting a nightly battle with mosquitos, spending six weeks in detention there, spending another 18-months at an asylum centre here under appaling conditions, and under my curent state; running around to make ends meet, not being in a state to provide for adequate food, living in an under-heated flat with the temperature hitting sometimes below ?20 degrees, writing non-stop, organising events here and there, struggling to build a theatre company, I wouldn?t be able to fool my body for long as these efforts require enough energy to keep a race-horse going for years. If I were HIV positive I would be dead.
Obviously my enemies are preparing my orbituary. However, none should be fooled should I drop dead soon. In such a case my death would have been fabricated. I consider this a much more than deadly physical attack… it is an attack on my very totality, ?reality? and what I stand for.”
http://www.simonmol.com/2006/02/son_of_efasamot.html#more
This was from February 2006. Has any medical test been carried out to confirm that he does indeed have AIDS?
Yes, quoting message on the police web site (in Polish, there are also photos from the arrest attached to the article):
Gazeta Wyborcza quotes the police on Jan 7th saying that 14 women has already contacted the authorities. The identity of the culprit was made public for the sake of public interest.
(soory for my english)
Thank you for mentioning my article. There is a new, important idea, that you should know about. With a girl called Anna, we want to remove from internet all articles, poetry and informations about public activity of Simon Mol . We want to remove everything except the criminal records. Judge can put him in prison, we want to kill him in other way. We invite everyone who wants to participate. It is easy, simply send emails to sites, where you can find anything created by Simon Mol, and demand to remove it. If you want to help us, please spread this idea as far as you can.
If you want now more(polish): http://polityka-4rp.blogspot.com/2007/01/akcja-wymaza-simona-mola.html
Gniewomir Świechowski
Interesting idea. Provided he is found guilty:
Should Mol still be found on the Internet as anti-fascist of the year, or the Warsaw Voice correspondent, or a charity activist? Don?t think so. Revoke it, remove it.
Should we burn his books? Culture abounds with works of bastards. Creations got life of their own (like it or not). Even if I don?t feel like reading any of his writings. Now that their double bottom can be seen.
More comments welcome.
simon´s friends:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbk2-vl2BDA
I have read the articles carried in the Polish Media about Simon Mol. One comment in particular refers to his actions as some kind of racial revenge. This is nonsense.
Simon Mol did not only approach Polish women. However not everyone accepted his advances (thank god).
If he is in fact guilty of deliberately spreading the HIV virus, this is the action of a man who hates women. If his actions really were deliberate, then there is no real difference between him and the well known serial killers such as Ted Bundy and the Green River killer in the united states. Both of these serial Killers were were white males who perpetrated their crimes mainly against white women. The only difference here is that simon mol’s method of murder is slower.
Anonymous
White women who lay down for blacks and other coloreds are traitors to their people and disgusting women. They get what they deserve. Racist White women will avoid HIV infection and have normal White babies and pass on a healhty civilization, while “white” women with the disease of the soul of left wing ideology will catch AIDS and die. Good riddance to n*****r-loving garbage!
Kolego,
Piszę tylko, żeby zwrócić Twoją uwagę na typo:
emphasize = położyć nacisk
empathize = czuć empatię.
To w odniesieniu do fragmentu “We emphasize with ones that we identify ourselves with, I know.”
Poza tym, chciałem wyrazić pełne poparcie dla tego, co robisz na stronie. Naprawdę zniesmaczony jestem tym jak wiele pochwał można wciąż przeczytać w sieci na temat tego szkaradnego człowieka.
All the best.
Wszystko jedno czy ktoś jest czarny, różowy, pomarańczowy albo w kropki… Odpowiedzialność wobec drugiego człowieka jest jedna. Jeżeli chcemy być na równi traktowani z innymi ludźmi, to musimy na równi ponosić odpowiedzialność. Jeżeli Mol miał nawet najmniejsze podejrzenia, że może być nosicielem, to jego obowiązkiem było to sprawdzić (a wszystko wskazuje na to,że podejrzewał). Tłumaczenie zaś, że zarzuty wynikają z rasizmu są dość infantylną próbą obrony, a prawda jest taka, że dzięki takim właśnie ludziom, jak on sam…rasizm może wciąż istnieć i ładnie się rozwijać. Uchodźca nie znaczy kogoś lepszego albo gorszego. Na pewno znaczy, że ktoś jest w gorszej sytuacji, ale nie określa wartości samego człowieka.
I tak naprawdę kwestia nie dotyczy rasizmu, tylko zaburzeń osobowości. Zaburzeń osobowości Simona Mola.
Panie Bartłomieju, chciałbym zapytać czy mógłbym wykorzystać anglojęzyczne materiały z pana blogu na moim, oczywiście z zaznaczeniem źródła i odsyłaczem. Coraz więcej ludzi trafia do mnie z wyszukiwarek i chciałbym aby znajdowały się tam również informacje dla anglojęzycznych internautów, niestety nie mam ani czasu ani wystarczającej znajomości angielskiego by samemu dokonywać tłumaczeń. Byłbym wdzięczny za odpowiedź.
Gniewomir Świechowski, email: gniewomir85[at]o2[dot]pl
ps. Jeśli jest pan zainteresowany, to dzięki życzliwemu internaucie dysponuję artykułem z “Cameroun Tribune” na temat Simona Mola, myślę że może być interesującym dodatkiem do pańskiego wpisu. http://polityka-4rp.blogspot.com/2007/01/cameroun-tribune-about-simon-mol.html
Yes Hopefully these stupid white women will Die soon…parading around with the Ape..putting the idea that its a “Good idea” into youger white girls heads….Racism Keeps you clean and safe
The fucking white pigs just got what they deserve. Are they not the originator of AIDS? Mol is a sick man who might not know he is sick and instead of supporting him, you guys starts throwing up all kinds of racist slangs. To hell with you guys. If you think you are superior then you got it coming nazists.
What about white germans old men raping young Thailandese children In bangkok.My friend(black girl)was contaminated by a stupid German who told her he was clean.You stupid racist white,you are the beast in this world.Leave simon alone…
All the negative things from Slavery, WW1 &ww2,Crimes against jews,religious war,and the more modern colonisation came from you.(EUROPE EUROPEANS)i don`t forget how you gave arms to Tutsi for the genocide.You bloody bastard.We were happy in our cave.Happiness never a white have had.You came to corrupt us.I hope you will contract more virus from refugees.Though that virus was created by you,we didn`t know about it.Your cocks are cold like your pussies are ice.Incapable to have orgarms you seek a black warm body.SAD YOU
Simon is a murderer and deserves to die for his crimes.
Mambo is another criminal!
Castrate him! Sterilize the women who fuck these people.
The slags that sleep with this neanderthal deserve every disease they get.
I have some new information, there is a possibility that Simon was infected in poland. Many facts sugests that in 2002 he was healthly. I coresponding with one of the Simon girlsfriends, and she tells mi that is healthly, instead she have sex with him.
I will write about this in a few day’s on my blog.
(…and like always, i’m soory for my english ;)
It´s probably one of Simon´s few friends who want to save the dirty bastard.
But he always insisted with girls to have sex without condom.
It was proven that he was tested positive before coming to Poland and he knew he was HIV positive.
And if someone has sex a few times with somebody HIV positive NOT ALWAYS that person is also infected.
What his ex-girlfriend tries to do now is save the skin of the monster.
I know we disagree about this case, but I think what you are doing is a useful addition to the debate about Moll’s story.
and there is more to chew on now….
Beatroot is a leftist who supported the ?antifascist of the year? since the first minute.
GO AWAY FROM MY COUNTRY YOU BASTARD!
Marta. calm down. Calling me a bastard is not an intellectual or political argument. You are just making yourself look silly….
In yor blog you call ?fucker and wanker? to people who ?dare? to oppose your opinions.
Are those insults intellectual or political arguments?
It is just as equal right for the male as female to use a condom. The lie came first before the act. He knew he was infected, who doesn’t know? Who in his place doesnt know? He is a 34 unmarried man who’s probably had sex with a different woman every night. to MAMBO, TIM, Reg D. … I wish u one day get infected. I wish your partner cheats on you and gets infected then he or she infects you. KARMA baby - and that’s how easy it is. It does its magic. You spoke to soon and one day you will be a carrier. You are stupid and are racist to say those things.
IT don’t matter if these women were white, care to GUESS HOW MANY black women in Africa HE INFECTED? What about those women?? Those women who don’t have a voice to speak up or do anything about it?????? Why is it that black people are generalized as having the HIGHEST percentage to carry HIV or AIDS? B/c they all “fuck” around without condoms, men AND WOMEN.
So don’t sit there and judge, when you could be next. Simon Mol should be hung and executed for the crime he committed. I hope no other black man is allowed in the country, and let me tell you, no black man will ever be accepted in the northern European countries after this affair. Everyone will reject them, and no one will look at them. That’s what he did for his people, the black people in Africa. He shamed them for being who he is.
So if one of you, MAMBO, TIM, Reg. D is black and u decide to visit Europe, don’t be surprised if you’re subjected to dirty looks like you’re THE disease. Maybe u already live there, every day you leave your home people will look at you and judge you. There goes that piece of shit and their HIV - I don’t know I just know their black therefore they must be infected!
–this is what I understood you were trying to say by stating these white women got what they deserve? No one deserves this. Not even you. But KARMA will get you and you too will SERVE your sentence.
ps - condoms have been around for many years, yet not everyone uses them, mostly of their own will, but MAJORITY of SANE people don’t infect others on purpose. We’ve all not used a condom at some point in time - these women are victims of crime not naiveness.
Really guys the facts are facts I dont think Polish media and police would blame a individual for that kind of henious crime until they have proof,what i dont get is that he only face 10 years in prison LQQKS either the law is so poorly implimented or that poles are so naive.He should be charged with one crime for each offense and should get 1000 years if prooved he has infected 100 women then again where does the exact 100 number come from?
once again doesnt the polish immigration law require medical evaluation before granting any kind of immigration or refugee status? esp from the countries and continent where aids is so prominent?????
THe worse are guys like this Beatroot-a useless irish idiot, who defends the inicence of Simon Mol until today.
For the idiot it´s all a racist/fascist conspiracy.
Useless Irish idiot?
:-) I am not Irish. My mum is Irish.
And I have never said that the Mol thing is ?all about racism?. If Mol did what he is accused of then prison and then deportation is what he deserves. But it is not up to me to judge, nor you?it?s up to a court of law. Trial by media is no trial at all ? it?s a kangaroo court.
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But you have judged him already. You have pre-judged him. In Latin the word is prejudicium?which is where the English word prejudice comes from.
Maybe that?s where the racism comes in, eh Marta?
Alexa too bad; i am black and i live in Europe. Incidentally I also have this white girl that i fuck when ever i have the energy to do so and to make matter worst she is polish. She is even the one that draw my attention to this incident and she has not stop fucking me, neither has she stop loving me because she sees me as an individual - a human. I totally agree with beatroot facts are facts Simol deserve to pay for his crime if he has been found guilty by a court of law but to prejudge him is madness and i think Marta has intelligently decided to be mad and prejudging him simply because mol is as black as myself. Marta this world will forge ahead and not backward. Gone are the days that whites used to be colonists and masters and blacks slaves. Little girl grow up to the reality of a globalize world. Find yourself a black man and discover that after all said and done he is just another human.
If there are people who like having sex with animals, why not with a black?
LOL
There you go Marta….now do you see why I am writing about racism and Mol?
Or do you not consider that last piece of bile ‘not racist’?
At least this case opened the eyes of millions of Poles not only about the danger of receiving parasites/false refugees but mainly about the so called humanists who defend them.
I really hope the government restores the death penalty.
The first I would like to see with a tight rope around is neck would be the Antifascist of the year: The Murderer Simon Mol.
But I´m happy that he will not be alive for much longer.
I really hope the murderer will be buried in his own
villagge -the pigsty where he was born.
Beatroot put your political correctness up you ass!
If I were you I would get out of my country and go preach to Africa!
A country ruined by decades of communism/leftism doesn´t need a jobless socialist psycho like you here!
from Polish daily Rzeczpospolita:
??Simon Mol always accused everybody of racism. When you didn?t do what he wished, he would yell that it was because he was black. He never listened to any arguments, he would always just leave, slamming the door behind him. Everyone knew that he could make his accusations public, and everyone feared it,? says a person who runs a humanitarian organization that helps refugees. ?It goes without saying; he terrorized us with political correctness
THIS SORT OF MORAL BLACK MAIL IS THE ARGUMENT USED BY GUYS LIKE BEATROOT ALL THE TIME.
Answer: do you not consider that last piece of bile ?not racist??
You use exacly the same strategy your unfortunate friend Mol used:)
Do you think you can scare me with your insinuations of racism?
These days nobody is intimidated anymore by accusations of racism.
Fell descriminated?
That´s easy!Pack you bags and go home!
Warszawa: Topienie Simona M.
Zgodnie z tradycja, która nakazuje w święto wiosny topić Złego, działacze warszawskiego NOP z zachowaniem tradycji i obyczaju spuścili z biegiem Wisły kukłę Simona M. (on sam siedzie za rasistowską działalność terrorystyczną, polegająca na świadomym zarażaniu HIVem Białych kobiet ? i niestety nie mógł nam towarzyszyć). Simon M. Przed wędrówką rzeczną Simon M., ku uciesze i narodowców i gapiów, zajął się radosnym ogniem. I było prawie jak na filmach o złych białych plantatorach z Południa, którzy bezlitośnie tępią upodlana rasę czarnych. Innymi słowy było ? by zacytować specjalistów od nowomowy, coolowo.
But ‘Marta’…
Is what ‘Kasia’ said….
If there are people who like having sex with animals, why not with a black?
….racist, or not?
Answer the question.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbk2-vl2BDA
?.racist, or not?
Answer the question
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbk2-vl2BDA
And is this racism or not?
Answer the question
So I get the impression that:
a) you do not think that likening having sex with animals and having sex with a black person is a racist thing to say.
b) Therefore you are a very primitive racist.
c) That ?Marta? and Kasia? are the same, sad person.
d) That both ?Marta? and ?Kasia? are actually a male.
e) That male has been turning up on blogs pretending he is many other, scary people who make pathetic threats against bloggers, because he has not the ability to form an argument about pretty much anything at all.
f) And that male is not even Polish?
Trolls and sados like you should not be banned from the blogosphere (because that would make you feel an importance you don?t deserve) but ignored.
You will in future be ignored because you are not able to have a debate ? so what is the point?
My Barty Shepherd - what do you think of people like this on your blog?
The only Racist here is YOU.BEATROOT!
I ´m almost sure you are not even white.LOL
My Barty Shepherd - what do you think of people like this on your blog?
Of course if I was defending your criminal friend you wouldn´t complain, would you?
PELASE ANSWER!
Unfortunately for you, millions of Poles are on my side not yours LOL
Debating for this guy = agreeing with him.
Otherwise there it comes: fascist, racist, etc.etc.
His tolerant facade is a fake like the myth of his ?brotha? Simon.He even wants others to ban expose his double standards and lies.
Debating for this guy = agreeing with him.
Otherwise there it comes: fascist, racist, etc.etc.
His tolerant facade is a fake like the myth of his ?brotha? Simon.He even wants others to ban those who dare to expose his double standards and lies.
You guys seem to be on a quest to deplete my db storage, but no worries, I can go for miles:)
Sorry for not following your discussion on Simon, but I kind of lost the point. He is awaiting fair trial, I hope, and that leaves little to discuss, for me.
Neither I find it productive to engage in investigations who is personally behind the arguments. And by the way beatroot: not sure what you want to achieve by disfiguring my name, but it is best serve in its original form, thank you.
The only thing I?m starting to wonder is the racism itself, after Mol experience.
To be lazy and quote wikipedia:
Likening representative of another race to animal seems racist alright.
Is it racist too, when you mistrust person of another race because you expect his culture to be vastly different than yours? In one of the articles about Mol one of the experts on Africa commented how naive our ideas about Africans? thinking are. ?They can talk about Shakespeare and still believe in their tribal magic? (quoting from memory). Before Mol case I would soon develop trust to an African talking about Shakespeare (or, say, Beethoven, because I?m not so much into Shakespeare), but now I would have my doubts.
And after trip to China I would be very cautious before trusting Chinese based on their personal feedback. Their culture seem to allow them to fake it, which is a nasty surprise for a European (cost me $50, but a lesson seems worth it).
Such stereotype thinking feels like discriminating other people based on their origin (because you suspect them of some things you wouldn?t expect from your own). I hope it?s not racism. It would be sad, the more you learn other cultures, the more racist you become.
Just wondering, didn?t put much thought into it so far.
At least the owner of this blog is a CIVILIZED PERSON who really defends freedom of speech.
He is not some political correct frustrated whose only aim is to brainwash everyone with his pathetic theories about racism:
Whites can be racists!FOR SURE!
But blacks ( like himself probably) NO WAY!THey are just victims of society, colonialism, racism, may be even nazism…LOL
And when someone refuses to bite is bait, then the insults start: racist, fascist, nazi, fucker, wanker, moron, etc.
You are loosing the game my friend
LOL LOL
Sorry Bartek, but I only Anglo sized your name because at the moment the Z button on my (new) keyboard only works in the capital ? so to avoid OwcZarek I Englished it?.sorry again.
But I would keep an eye on some of the crap that appears on your comment section. When a host of a blog doesn?t respond to stuff like that it doesn?t give a very good impression. And I see that you are a reasonable person who should not be associated with these, or more probably ?this?, person?.
Calm down Beatroot!
Don´t be desperate just because your INTOLERANT and FASCIST character was finally exposed.
?I would keep an eye?
It´s a pity the KGB good old days are gone, isn´t it mate?
BTW what ?crap? are you referring to?
To the fact that you are an anti-white racist who is obsessed with the defense of a monster just because he´s a ?brotha? like you?
It´s a fact that when your lack of arguments is obvious your last resource are… insults.
Although?.
stereotype thinking feels like discriminating other people based on their origin (because you suspect them of some things you wouldn?t expect from your own). I hope it?s not racism.
No, it?s racial prejudice.
It?s like someone meeting a couple of Poles who are car thieves and thinking all Poles were thieves. That?s how the US Polak jokes started.
So?just because Mol might be, or appear to be, not a very good representative of Africans, says nothing about Africa, in general, at all. So to generalize (spell check for Z) that ?Africans that tell you about Shakespeare don?t? because Mol may or not be a complete bastard, is an absurd point of view.
How many Africans do you personally know? How many of them are AIDS spreading demons?
The last comment was directed at the host of this blog, by the way.
And why impersonating a female Pole (Marta/Kasia) is a valid point is that this creep is telling me to get out of ?their? country. But if they are not Polish - and use female aliases for some desperate appeal for authenticity - then how can they tell me to get out of anywhere?
It?s just more of the crap that is appearing here without being challenged.
Trolling is a pain in the arse on the blogosphere and unless we start dealing with them, someone like blogger.com is going to start putting restrictions like ?registered comment only??.and that kind of control is not a positive step for us bloggers.
How many Africans do you personally know?
Hundreds! So I know what I´m talking about.
Surprised?
IT´S TRUE!I had to deal with many of your ?brothas? for professional reasons.
How many of them are AIDS spreading demons?
Many!
And murderers, rapists, criminals, etc.
( Of course they are all innocent people and fantastic human beings since you already explained us blacks are mere victims of an oppressive and racist society)
But the way you act is not such a great example of the good character of your people.
He claims he wants to debate…but as long as he wins.
Poor loser! LOL
Beatroot:
Another victim of white racism:
Snoop Dogg has avoided a jail sentence after pleading no contest to gun and drug charges in a Californian court
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6547527.stm
This society is so unfair towards coloured people, isn’it Beatroot?
Beatroot: surely these are not exactly the comments I would expect on this blog, but since they are limited to this one incidental article I decided not to take any special precautions just now. Not saying I would be having any problems doing so. After all it?s my blog so I can do whatever I want with the comments. It?s just that after deleting one comment I would be stuck forever with defining clear rules whether to delete or not the next one, so I wouldn?t bother unless really forced to.
I?m not sure with the idea that we should challenge all stuff that comes out. How exactly should you challenge someone?s comparing black people with animals? It?s just a brainless noise and responding to it will just generate more of it. It is best dealt ignored.
Thanks for clarification on racial prejudice. However, you took my point too far. Clearly it?s ridiculous to expect someone being a thief or HIV infector based on prejudice and most intelligent people are able to avoid this kind of thinking. My point was about not being naive about other people and expecting them to have the same cultural conditioning. The cultures are different and it is a fact. Is it wrong to take it into account while dealing with people?
We work with Italians and we typically expect them to be nonchalant about timing, have a bias for hierarchical structures, but also extrovert and fun to hang around with. Which is usually the case. They, on the other hand, consider Polish people to complain whenever opportunity arises, and being straightforward to the extreme. Which is usually the case. Somehow we usually get together quite well despite this well know prejudices:)
There is a lot of talk about what to do with trolling at the moment - codes of conduct, etc. But you are right, it is probably better to ignore them. And you have perfect right to delete any comments you like…
And you are right about the Mol case. He will be put on trial and it will be sorted out in court. Until then there is not much more we can say about it.
OH my god… I’ve just read all that bullshit. I don’t think you know any black person in Poland, let alone identify with her/his feelings. Because of such ignorant people (resisted saying prats) like you living in this country is difficult and unwelcome. Why the hell do you care about somebody’s sexual life? isn’t there anything interesting in yours? Using condoms is not a matter of trust but responsability and it lays on both sides. Simple as that.
Perhaps, you should visit more modern countries than Poland and change your traditional, nazist-based attitudes. Reading your comments I realize that it will take ages to alter Poland’s image in Western Europe.shame.
Poland?s image in Western Europe.shame.
And what is a modern image to you?
Amsterdam?
Ironically Mol’s actions enforce the anti-Black stereotype he worked so hard against. He has given ammunition to his enemies and through his actions has negated much of his positive work.
Mamboo is a f-ing moron. Saying YOU gave weapons to Africa, you started slavery, etc. What a dumb uneducated idiot! Poland never had slavery, was not responsible for the holocaust and didn’t supply Africa with weapons you stupid son of a bitch!
Fuck everybody that defends that AIDS spreading son of a bitch. How would you feel if he did it to you or your family? And no not all Polish ppl r racist, Mol deserves to be in jail, simple. He knew he had it (Police have proof) and it has nothing to do with racism you assholes. In the USA ppl that infect innocent ppl w/ hiv knowing they have hiv go to jail (40 years, for one person) period!
?Fuck everybody that defends that AIDS spreading son of a bitch?
I agree 100%.
The main supporter of this criminal is Beatroot, the arrogant english expat.
Just have a look at what he wrote in his blog order to defend this murderer.He even insinuated that racists made up all this story.
He is as criminal as Simon Mol.
People are just blaming Simon Mol. With all the aids campains that are being done all around the world to prevent aids,why didn´t these women use a condom?I think it’s a woman´s responsibility to use a condom as well.The women also had their own right to say NO,so the fault is from both sides not only Simon Mol´s.
Some Wikipedia members are trying to delete the article about this criminal. It is yet another attempt to blackout the terrible crimes committed by a social parasite.
For these women it is surely a tragedy, but it’s their fault that they slept with a negro, so we can blame those women too for whats happened to them. He told every women he slept with, that using condoms when having sex with a black ‘man’, is act of racism.
The most dramatic aspect of all of this are stories about Mol forcing women to have unprotected sex with him by arguing that using a condom with a black man is a sign of racism and racist fears; that it is politically incorrect. This is coupled with the fact that for many women, having unprotected sex with a black man fulfilled two politically correct obligations: it was trendy to have sex with a black man, and it was also a sign that one was not prejudiced against blacks.
“Simon Mol always accused everybody of racism. When you didn’t do what he wished, he would yell that it was because he was black. He never listened to any arguments, he would always just leave, slamming the door behind him. Everyone knew that he could make his accusations public, and everyone feared it,” says a person who runs a humanitarian organization that helps refugees. “It goes without saying; he terrorized us with political correctness. And he was very charming as well.”
Months ago, a certain woman, suffering from illness which could not be cured, tested positive for HIV. While talking to her, the doctor suddenly realized he was talking to the third woman in a short time who mentioned having had sexual contact with a man from Cameron. All of the victims immediately informed Mol that he had infected them with HIV. Mol’s reaction was always the same: he would accuse them of racism, of stereotyping, that all blacks have HIV. He would also say that even if he were sick, it is his private business.
That women were actually convinced by Mol to engage in sex without a condom in order to avoid being accused of racism indicates that they were not only the victims of Simon Mol, but also of ideas which corrupted any semblence of common sense amongst them.
These ideas, often identified as “politically correct,” categorize people into groups of victims who believe they have some rights based on prior harms done by oppressive groups to their groups. In the case of Simon Mol, it appears Simon Mol believed that he had the right to unprotected sex with white women because white people oppressed and often still opress black people.
Civlization is wholly opposed to this barbarian view of human life. Civilization holds that by Nature, all Men are created equal and endowed with certain inalienable rights, and that there is no such thing as a “group” right, that “minority groups” do not have rights since the smallest minority is the minority of one Man, who is perfectly equal in rights to others.
Nature, however, is also imperfect. While we must do everything to keep an open mind, to honor the individual rights of all Men, we cannot be blind to the imperfection of Mankind. Political Correctness, with its’ relentless determination to rid the world of “prejudice” is deadly insofar as all common sense is based on pre-judgment; on prejudice, and a healthy prejudice is nothing more than prudence. Prudence dictates not to have unprotected sex with aggressive black men who yell at women who suggest using a condom and call it ‘racist.’
If some women had not been corrupted by the academia and the culture of political correctness to believe that they owed sexual gratification to Simon Mol on account of his skin color and status as a member of an “oppressed” group, this tragedy would have been avoided.?
Bertold Kittel, Maja Narbutt, Editor’s Comment by Peter S Rieth
Rzeczpospolita nr 7
09-01-2007
folks,
please this is serious and I need ur help:
I studied in Warsaw in 2002-2203 as an exchange student and I got to know Simon as my room mates boyfriend. No clue if he was ill at that point or not but Im sure my room mate wasnt just holding hands with him. Thats why I really want to contact her.
Not knowing of all that, I was looking for old friends and her new email I googled Simon to ask him for her email. I came a cross this and I am seriously worried about her, if she knows, if she gets medical support, she may be infected and needs help. Can anyone tell me if there is something done to inform all the women he knew? Anyone any ideas what I should do?
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